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Clusmas · Mar 06, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49

Dear OP,

You are an idiot.

Get out of guild wars now.

Kthxbi.

LifeInfusion · Mar 07, 2006, 04:16 AM // 04:16

*cough*

finish all of them -->http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Quests
Get all bonuses.

Make a monk. We are short on good ones.

Learn to use skills well and pvp.
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Above all : Help new players with KNOWLEDGE (not running/items) so game expands.

vinegrower · Mar 07, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

at level 20, the game is just beginning. I see the leveling up time as kind of a hastle personally. Once you are at level 20, finished the two 15-attribute point quests and have most, if not all, of you primary and secondary skills, and collector or better items, you are finnaly ready to see what your character can do.

You may have ruined your experience by having someone run you to get the best armor, Barrage, and such. If you had just played through all the quests in the normal order instead of skipping past everything, you may have enjoyed the experience a bit more. You still have several quests to go through, and the FoW/UW/Tombs. there are also other professions, PvP and the like.

This game is about player skill, not character stats/equipment.

tomcruisejr · Mar 07, 2006, 08:07 AM // 08:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimm

I'd recommend moving on to PvP, but you don't really "gain anything" there, and you seem unable to enjoy anything where you don't get some kind of "reward"..

PVP gives rewards too.

PVP's ok rewards: Sigil/items, Fame (the numbers/emote)
PVP's awesome rewards: Observer Mode Coverage (must be top 100) of your PVP (tombs/gvg) Matches (seeing your and your guildies' pimped PVE characters whooping guilds/pugs' asses with lotsa people commenting on your performance, fans praising and haters trash talking) AKA the "real" Fame, Free Trips if you get qualified to join semis or finals of a tourney (i.e.GWWC) and the opportunity to make yourself more competitive / experienced.

do all things in pve (you can cap all the skills for your primary class, do all quests there are, accumulate golds and have all the green stuffs) and if youre done/bored, go pvp

=HT=Ingram · Mar 07, 2006, 09:33 AM // 09:33

The truth of the matter is the game is much more then grinding. otherwise why would Anet provide EVERYONE a way to get a max level / attrib character right out of the box??? I would think this to be obvious to anyone with a single brain cell...

If you don't like it, well not every game will please everyone. Just can't happen. its a shame that your life is so shallow that your only goal in life is to be "Better" then everyone else through worthless farming. Its about the skills, not the goodies... Sure sometimes a particular goodie is ok for a while, but eventually everything in the game gets replaced by something else. AKA build of the month variations...

Personally I am looking forward to all the skill points I have amassed for unlocking of new professions skills and weapons / runes in Factions... For one sole reason... to add to my skill options for PvP builds ASAP...

PvP is either where you start out, or end up. Its the copulation of all things GW as it stands today... However with the new faction / alliance system I feel this will change. This is Arenanets way of bringing the game world together for mutual benefits... From what little we have seen so far. I think people like your self will like very little in the new versions, as its more about teamwork and alliance cooperation, then the lone wolf aspect you seem to appreciate. So for you. Basically save yourself the ongoing frustration and go back to a game like EQ2 or worse Galaxies... which you style of game play is Blatant... And thus is a dying bread... Why yous ask? ahh young one. because there is no chance of equality with new players coming into a game... Those that play longest will always be the best at anything. Thus, Why buy the game? with your mentality that is...

Your only chance of achieving what you want is to get in on ground floor and out grind everyone forever... If I might make a suggestion. try Tabula Rasa http://www.playtr.com/index.html also from NCSoft and Arenanet. Its subscription based and still in beta... But its everything a mentality like yourself wants in a game. Grind to your hearts content...

Grimm · Mar 07, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

PVP gives rewards too.

PVP's ok rewards: Sigil/items, Fame (the numbers/emote)
PVP's awesome rewards: Observer Mode Coverage (must be top 100) of your PVP (tombs/gvg) Matches (seeing your and your guildies' pimped PVE characters whooping guilds/pugs' asses with lotsa people commenting on your performance, fans praising and haters trash talking) AKA the "real" Fame, Free Trips if you get qualified to join semis or finals of a tourney (i.e.GWWC) and the opportunity to make yourself more competitive / experienced.

do all things in pve (you can cap all the skills for your primary class, do all quests there are, accumulate golds and have all the green stuffs) and if youre done/bored, go pvp

Yes, I know; I was being sarcastic. I've heard lots of ignorant PvE players (I'm not saying all are; I'm saying the ones I'm referring to are ignorant) say that PvP sucks because you don't "get anything". First, games are meant to be played for fun, not virtual rewards. Second, what does "gold" and "loot" get you? Can you trade them for a car? A new computer? Food? Nope. So you don't really gain anything from PvE except for feeling good about yourself if you need virtual loot to feel special. At least in PvP you have the chance of winning *real* money from the championship. Sorry, but noone's going to award money to the best farmers.

p3falien · Mar 07, 2006, 10:04 PM // 22:04

some1 that hasn't even played further then the crystal desert that went lvl20 by running and powerlevelling and now wastes my time by saying he is bored gets only one advice from me:

quit self-spoiler, and if you don't ( why wouldn't you ?? )... í hope i never run into you when i form a party.
maybe you should buy some1's account on ebay so you don't need to finish the game by yourself ever !!

nuff sed.. 00000t

jciardha · Mar 07, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

I ascended my first character, a mesmer, back in September. I still play the same one to this day. Since then I've made other PVE characters, some have stayed, others went into the digital dustbin. Why? Because I have fun experimenting with the different skill/profession combos in both PVE and occasional PVP.

Furthermore, I enjoy hanging out online, socializing with people. About 3/4s of the players on my friends list are active almost every night (and my f-list is nearly full, btw). I can't wait for an in-game mail system so I don't get flooded with PMs every single time the moment I log in.

From what I can glean from the OP's post is he doesn't want to experiment, he doesn't want to try something new. And maybe he doesn't bother socializing with people. He thinks he's got the best of everything, and he's bored. Well, who's fault is that?

Diablo™ · Mar 07, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53

Bored? Come back again when youre bored of the Tombs, Fissure of Woe, Underworld, and PvP.

Guardian of the Light · Mar 08, 2006, 12:10 AM // 00:10

Ok you still got a lot to do on your to do list.

You got to do every quest.
You still got to do the missions.
You got to do the bonus.
You got to explore the whole map.
You got to do the same stuff with 2 more characters at least (save last for PvP slot)
You got to .....

Ok your done PvE. Now its time for the PvP stuff

.

See theres stuff to do still.

Diablo™ · Mar 08, 2006, 12:15 AM // 00:15

The problem is that lvl 20 is not intended to be a game goal. Thats like thinking you're done with the 500-meter dash when you've only ran 2 feet...

The game had barely just begun at lvl 20.

lifesux006 · Mar 08, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

http://wiseelben.com/rangersbeacon/

I got a tun of idea's of these builds, not to mention alot of faction with the spiker build. almost rank 3

SPIKERS FTW :d (includes other things like r/mo things..if you ARENT r/mo, ascend then get "Seekers Passage" cahnge your proffession, get some skill points (with the new scrolls that double xp) Hey, mess with the build some too.....(if you need punishing shot...gl with that if your PvE took me FOREVEAH to get that skill...but it was worth it..skill is located: http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/AllSnakeGiant.JPG Thats the place the creature spawns, the dudes name is..Thul Boulderrain....oh if you ARE a different class and/or have any other class that needs elites..the site is: http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/

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>_> the link didnt go up on the xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/ site <_<

Yogi's Pain · Mar 08, 2006, 01:36 AM // 01:36

Quote:

You have to understand that Ive lost all motivation to play this game anymore, for reasons clearly stated (I thought) above. Ive spent weeks playing this game, studying it carefully

Guess you should have studied they level cap.

the bloodthirst · Mar 08, 2006, 01:54 AM // 01:54

I actually understand what the OP is saying. i stopped playing for a little while after i got to fire island. i tried PVP but that didnt really appeal to me. it takes awhile to get a good amount of faction to get any rewards. I dont mind that at all. Problem i have with it is if i spend all that time gaining that faction then why cant my PVE character use the upgrades and scrolls i buy. another thing i dont like that much is the lack of individuality. I would like to find some nice looking weapons that not everyone has. like i said i havent gotten past fire island so if there are some weapons with cool skins just let me know? The rewards for PVP to me are minimal for a PVP based game. i dont want some "uber" weapons that can 1 hit kill everything. i just want something that will set me apart from others who have not put in their time to PVP. also as far as the lvl cap goes i dont really care one way or the other. if you reached 20 later in the campaign then many ppl wouldnt think the lvl cap is too low. if your lvl would raise every time you lvled up i think that would be nice. im not saying getting more att points but just a number next to your name. at least seeing my lvl rise would give me a bigger sense of accomplishment then just getting a skill point. i have yet to finish the game so if there are bigger and better items for me to go after later in the game then just let me know.

Sekkira · Mar 08, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

That'd be rather daunting though, going up against a like level 300. Not that the stats would be any different, but it'd be funny.

KvanCetre · Mar 08, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yogi's Pain

Guess you should have studied they level cap.

winner

Age · Mar 08, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimm

Yes, I know; I was being sarcastic. I've heard lots of ignorant PvE players (I'm not saying all are; I'm saying the ones I'm referring to are ignorant) say that PvP sucks because you don't "get anything". First, games are meant to be played for fun, not virtual rewards. Second, what does "gold" and "loot" get you? Can you trade them for a car? A new computer? Food? Nope. So you don't really gain anything from PvE except for feeling good about yourself if you need virtual loot to feel special. At least in PvP you have the chance of winning *real* money from the championship. Sorry, but noone's going to award money to the best farmers.

I guess some of us want that 15K armor and that cost lots of Gold for the materials and to buy it.It takes a lot of time to invest in PvP GWWC for prize money if you can afford to get there and play your heart out.I consider myself a moderate PvPer.

paulscott · Mar 08, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51

i don't think he realizes he can redistrube his skills

Tyr Sangreal · Mar 08, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

I'm glad that ArenaNet has made that level cap. Anything above 20 is quite pointless. (IMO of course.)

Eden2k5 · Mar 09, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

I loved playing Diablo II hardcore before and in the early days of the expansion. The reward? Being high level playing the same character for almost a months time without dying once, ranked on a ladder, etc.

Then shortly after the expansion things went haywire *MOO* and the game was far easier.